Now, I coach pastors and business leaders in communications and self-care. At one point, the elder board at Willow became what people call a policy governance board. Was there any evidence found that he actually had an affair? Basically, theyre a rubber stamp. It is also the church in which Pete Briscoe, my former wonderful pastor, grew up in. Its a calling of God. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. Briscoe stepped down as senior pastor at the end of 2000 but remained involved in the church and active in overseas missions. I think it took courage and boldness on his part to be able to do that. It was everything from Vonda Dyers situation of being asked to come up to Bills room and talk leadership and a forced kiss, you know, a grab around the waist. So, Mitch, how is it that a lawyer from Texas ended up representing victims of sexual harassment at a mega church in Chicago? And I realized that as we were discussing this, that there might be some people who have heard about what happened at Willow Creek, but somewhat superficially, through the headlines and dont really know beneath the surface. Not so much at Willow till after, because I was so wrapped up in the Harvest stuff at that time and the Moody stuff that I didnt really have the capability or the bandwidth to do much reporting about Willow. Jill and Stuart came to the States from England. Judson is located just 36 miles outside Chicago on a beautiful 90 acre campus. And to do that, we must avoid falling into the trap of our Christian beliefs being pitted against culture in the public sphere of debate. Nobody who is an elder at a church should have any aspect of their identity wrapped up in either the role of being an elder or in the success or failure of the organization. I understand that the desire to have elders dealing with what Ill call Echelon or tier level, theological topics: What does the church think about, you know, for example, racial reconciliation? Think about the people whove done it historically, you know, the Chuck Swindolls that I mean, we can we can run off a list of names, we can also run off a list of failures. Lawyers are, by definition, advocates, right? Its biblical. Yep, thats rooted in pride. This was an excellent interview and elders need to read this interview. 1 talking about this. Because they were required to move by unanimity. Think about the psychology of someone who could be doing what was alleged by Pat Baranowski to have been done to her. And my understanding was the elder board set some boundaries for Clinton to be able to come and speak. And you you actually refer to it as multi-level marketing. Below is a link to a PDF of the article World Magazine did on a sex abuse scandal involving VOM. For more information just go to JudsonU.edu. This is a calling. etc. So you can go to Amazon and enter in Boz Tchividjian and his book will pop up but you need to know what youre looking for because people who are sexual predators, they have an acuity for blending into society in ways that they dont stand out like this is not like, you know, the sexual predator in your church is not some, you know, grease ball sitting outside your kids ministry just kind of looking for a way to get at, like, thats our common image of what a sexual predator is. Pete is the son of Jill and Stuart Briscoe. Because they, I mean, they had a massive PR machine they had, they hired Mark DeMoss, his firm to come in and try to resolve things from a PR standpoint. Thank you for joining us in seeing to it that no one misses the grace of God. It is a collection of people. I was the senior pastor of Bent Tree Bible Fellowship for nearly 30 years. You have to have unity among your vocational staff at the church about, you know, key issues like how do we treat other people? But this is the beauty of I think whats arisen is an independent media. That goes to the guarding role that Attorney Mitch shared. Glad that Jesus is still our anchor! Pete is the son of Jill and Stuart Briscoe. Why didnt others support them? It is a collection of people that we are to care for. On this episode of The Roys Report, Julie explores these important questions with Mitch Little, whos not just an attorney for victims. And then everyone could say, Oh, how sad that that one person did that one thing. But if you have a pastor with a glaring character flaw youre fooling yourself if you think youre gonna keep that character flaw in line with a pastor who doesnt put Jesus Christ first in his life, am I right? And wasnt there something with Bill Clinton coming to the church and speaking? WebIt is with heavy hearts that the Elders of Bent Tree announce that Pete Briscoe has submitted his resignation as Senior Pastor. Please contact us or click here to learn more about how to enable JavaScript on your browser. WebPete Briscoe, Stuart and Jills youngest son, was a key contributor to the ministrys teaching team from 2003 to 2021. And something else that you mentioned about the board, which I found fascinating was that the Willow Creek board had an awful lot of lawyers on it. When you think about the economic reach of an organization that was that size within evangelicalism, my goodness, even Christianity Today was scared to run articles about it. I know that the original elders of Harvest thought they could keep James accountable despite the knowledge that he had glaring character flaws from the beginning. WebSince that time he has ministered on every continent, written more than 40 books, pastored a church for 30 years, and founded a media ministry called Telling the Truth which now broadcasts daily worldwide. As a lawyer whos represented some of Bill Hybels victims, Mitch Little has seen a side of Willow Creek that few others have. WebSince that time he has ministered on every continent, written more than 40 books, pastored a church for 30 years, and founded a media ministry called Telling the Truth which now broadcasts daily worldwide. But we dont have time on this podcast. This person or these people were hurt as a result, you have a pride problem. Julie, you may want to review this pointwasnt a problem? Well, I tried other churches and its more of the same. Like so many of you, I love Pete. But I guess this is the question so many are asking is, Can anybody be in those kind of jobs with the kind of responsibility that is put on one human, one person to lead thousands of people? And so many looking to him for vision for leadership for everything. At the same time, hes writing a book and writing articles for Christianity Today about marriage purity. These little bitty people, from Willows perspective, who helped win the PR back, its a miracle. But youre right. So thanks again. And Willow lost the battle of PR on social media. :), I would strongly urge you to research Voice of the Martyrs. This is just the way things are in Corinth. For the next 90 minutes, Pete Briscoe enraptured us with his presentation of The Bema. I was blown away. And now lets put that in the past. Willow did not want to reckon with the deformed culture that had manifested underneath Bills leadership. But before we begin, I just want to take a minute to thank the sponsors of this podcast, Judson University, and Marquardt of Barrington. I think one of the ways that Willow tried to reckon with the situation was to permit Bill Hybels to retire from his role at the church. Although theres been some. I dont think that he caused the elder board to resign. Right? And so when you know from the pulpit, that might be a strength. Because I often wonder what would have happened if he had come back and you know, not been well are not been really able to do his job but said, You know what, Ive got to do this. This is the you know, erither, I need the job, or, This ministry completes me. or whatever, whatever the excuse is. But the thing that was so shocking to me, is that Bill Hy Hybels was the first pastor I had ever seen be so vulnerable from the pulpit. I wasnt throughout the representation. That to me, is a corruption of the role. As I look back on my own four years on staff, Im thankful for the teaching and leadership that Pete Briscoe has brought to Bent Tree, and I know that so many of us have been impacted by his attention to the Lord and quick obedience to however God leads him. And I do think theres a spiritual stronghold, I hope and pray that it will be broken in our area. I was just following following lawyers advice. So its okay. The woman had come forwarded, but then later recanted her story. Pete Briscoe @petebriscoe 12 Dec 2021. This is simply a place where I share the message of Gods unadulterated grace through my preaching sermons and bible teaching. You can read about them at their website Teaching the Truth. And I think it wasnt a problem, Mitch, because everybody always agreed with whatever the senior pastor wanted. It grows over time. He now coaches Pete Briscoe | Brookfield WI. That way, youll never miss an episode. Well, and that is one aspect of the story that I wanted to explore together because I know that what happened at Willow from my understanding of speaking with Vonda and several victims is that it was far worse, the abuse there and far more pervasive than most people know, and thats one of the frustrations I know of a lot of the victims is that Willow hasnt publicly acknowledged that or publicly said how bad it was. Yeah, I think youre gonna be waiting a while. Continue Reading The Upper Room: John 15 Posted by Nate Murray John and Nancy Ortberg had been at Willow Creek as pastors. Absolutely horrible. Im good friends with Vonda Dyer, who worked at Willow and was one of the women who bravely came forward with her story about her interactions with Bill Hybels. If you go back and you look at Bill Hybels books in retrospect, Im amazed at some of the things that are contained in his books that people became okay with. https://www.billionbibles.com/voice-of-the-martyrs.html. How do we deal with claims of sexual abuse? that keeps the honest person honest. The ministry began in 1971 while Stuart served as senior pastor of Elmbrook Church in Brookfield, Wisconsin, which grew into the largest evangelical church in the state. WebPete Briscoe answers that question by pointing us to Paul as the perfect example of one who speaks with tender boldness. It took me a long time to agree that he had done the things of which he had been accused. And which really makes me sad because theyve had a change in leadership. For the next 90 minutes, Pete Briscoe enraptured us with his presentation of The Bema.. But now my faith in the whole institution is shattered. I think youre absolutely right about that. A man who "dedicated his life to sharing Gods Word with the world" has died at the age of 91. I think there were a few major events. This was something that was very deeply ingrained in their culture. What eventually broke the culture of secrecy and protection? I appreciate your taking time again away from your vacation to spend time with us. I wonder, I wonder what effect that might have had on them. Well, and I hope there are Christian leaders listening to this who take note because is the time of just being silent and thinking that because youre silent, nothing will come back on you, thats past. They wont produce any vanilla beans. But then its my understanding too, that when these women met with the elders, the level of bullying and abuse that they were subjected to, was such that I know Vonda told me there were elders in tears at the end of this, of how pervasive the abuse was, I dont know how specific you can be but can you give people an idea of, of what actually happened to these women that were abused? I hope someday I can overcome this cynicism because I need Church as it should be. They made a lot of friends. "For many of you, he was preacher, pastor, mentor or friend. Its designed to be fought asymmetrically. As I was working through the Willow Creek representation with these women, the thing that kept cropping up to me was the Milgram experiment. Fifteen years later, I joined staff at Bent Tree. And I thought, I think I knew what he was doing when he named it that, but heres why I think its so ironic. Can you imagine how many books that sold her? Theres a lot of church boards that operate that way. Yet, Scripture and to how to teach it became new and deep and exciting every week as I listened to Pete in the short three years I have been at Bent Tree. The outside investigation report said something along the lines of, Bill Hybels hundreds or thousands of emails with this woman were, not available. Well, as it turns out my understanding from talking to witnesses, those emails were actually destroyed. So Scot, its like the scene in The Avengers when Iron Man just kind of drops out of the sky. I know for a fact that his article was circulated among the staff at Willow, and they crossed the Rubicon of credulity. But as you say its Gods grace that despite all that hes used these men to bless many, despite everything. Right. It was a huge fixture in evangelicalism. These are people that are in your country club. Continue Reading The Upper Room: John 15 Posted by Nate Murray Oh Well, and I appreciate your service to the church. And Hybels said, essentially, Yeah, well, well do it that way. And Clinton showed up and then didnt comply with anything that the board had said. And in the few times Ive spoken with him, I found his insights to be profound. I know the owners Dan and Kurt Marquart personally, and I can say without reservation that they truly run their business with honesty, integrity and transparency. Im so grateful now for that heritage. Telling the Truthis the international on-air and online media ministry that distributes the teaching content of uniquely-gifted Bible teachersStuart and Jill Briscoeto help people know Christ and experience Life in all its fullness. One of those is that you had your senior pastor resign kind of suddenly. Pete grew up in a home with intelligent and committed parents: both And its pervasive, and people are, theyre using it. So, and youre the chairman of your board. Subscribe Sign up for my daily email devotionals and to stay in touch! He was like one of these, I think until Scot decided to speak up, it was, Willow had credulity to say, These are people outside our tribe who are criticizing us. They had so many churches, thousands of churches coming on board and being a part of those. They didnt have the ability to move quickly. You know, when you have somebody like Bryan Loritts, who when hes talking about why when he was at a former church, he didnt disclose to the church that they had a sexual predator among them for six months. which Hybels assented to including you know, repenting for his behavior and not talking about politics and some other things as well. Tell us what you learned through you know, bringing this person to light, confronting him and dealing with the entire situation that we can learn from as a church. Bent Tree is a multi site mega church in the Dallas Fort Worth area thats had its own share of crises over the past several years. I think one of the things that happens in churches, from a deformed leadership standpoint, is requiring boards to operate in unanimity or using unity as a cudgel against people who have firm convictions about things. So as we part ways, let us make the departure sweet. Mike is a dear friend and Im sad this day has come. I think ultimately, we are still kind of under the inertia of a culture that was fomented by Pete Briscoe, which was a culture of goodness, a culture of grace and its still carrying forward under that momentum. It was the summer of 2000, and I was a college student on staff at Pine Cove Christian Camp. Senior pastors dont need advocates. And he came back and said, I cant do this anymore.. Gifted with wisdom, discernment, and a bit of English humor, the Briscoe's bring God's Word to life. I think the larger the platform, the more rigorous the accountability needs to be. And yet, they lost the PR battle, which is unbelievable. So there were more than 10 women that came forward and said that there was sexual misconduct by Bill Hybels. Thankyou in advance. Pete Briscoe, our pastor at our church came out in support of the Dyers, which was bold, and it was brave. Friends are important! So to some extent, we all have a measure of hypocrisy. Yeah, yeah, I think I think thats a good word to Julie. Thank you so much. Okay, how it didnt bring accountability. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. It is also the church in which Pete Briscoe, my former wonderful pastor, grew up in. So when you have someone who is trusted, whos supposed to be an expert, you know, like a pastor, like a longtime senior pastor whos supposed to be a theological expert, and someone whos in authority like a senior pastor, people are willing to do things to satisfy that person that they would not otherwise do, even if those things seem harmful to another person. WebBriscoe says that he wants Bent Tree to be a place where people can agree to disagree over this issue. WebPete Briscoe is a podcaster and evangelical pastor. Thats not to say there arent authentic people there. And what lessons can we learn from Willow Creeks mistakes? This is what manifests. Gifted with wisdom, discernment, and a bit of English humor, the Briscoe's bring God's Word to life. Pete reminds us that our goal is not to win arguments, but to win people. Can you imagine what that does for book sales to be on stage at the Global Leadership Summit among people all over the world and touted as an expert in something? And that set the course for some of these more severe things to continue happening, and then to even get more and more severe. Its all a Business and Power tool and stage for Virtue Signaling. Who hasnt given a friend a friendly kiss once in awhile? Thats a bad default state. Gifted with wisdom, discernment, and a bit of English humor, the Briscoe's bring God's Word to life. Well, again, Joining me today is Mitch Little a partner with Scheef & Stone in Frisco, Texas. Just go to BuyACar123.com. (etc. If you have six members of the Board of eight, lets just say its eight or 10. Well, I want to turn our discussion to what youve experienced at your own church, which is a multi-site mega church there in the Dallas Fort Worth area, because those are things where youve been able to apply some of these lessons that youve learned from watching the negative example maybe of Willow Creek, youve learned an awful lot from going through crisis at your own church. The Elder Board has accepted Petes decision, and his resignation is effective March 31, 2019. I have plenty of authentic friends just not at church. Boy, and if more churches did that, how much pain and heartache among the sheep would have been spared? Likewise. Also, make sure you subscribe to The Roys Report on Apple podcasts or Google podcasts. And so when I looked at that in the context of James MacDonald going, you know what, thats the type of accountability that man needed and was denied. Dear anonymous. The immense audio, video, and written teaching resources on our website help people who are seeking answers about God to know Christ and experience Life in all its fullness. That night we had a guest speaker come in for a special presentation. I had no idea what to expect as this lone man stood on the stage. Powerful ministry at some points. Pete has offered to The cover up of his behavior manifested at the elder board level. Growing up in a ministry family, Pete watched and learned from his parents and witnessed the reach and power of Telling the Truth 's media outreach. Yeah. Pete Briscoe, our pastor at our church came out in support of the Dyers, which was bold, and it was brave. This is simply a place where I share the message of Gods unadulterated grace through my preaching sermons and bible teaching. And some of it also involved a culture that was willing to cover for wrongdoing. I know from hearing from men, that that Bill abused men emotionally, spiritually while they were working there. Please note, our website requires JavaScript to be supported. Thats a bad default state. Briscoe stepped down as senior pastor at the end of 2000 but remained involved in the church and active in overseas missions. Nobody has said they had intercourse with Bill. In our church, we have a no tolerance policy. Leave them alone. I can see the elders (more than half of which were women), and people in general saying, It was only a hug. But I have to say that in the middle of dealing with a lot of tall weeds and bugs, God has also given me some flowers and fruit trees to enjoy. Heres my belief, Julie, I think the church at large, the big leaders in evangelicalism, we can name names if we want to, and Im sure that people have names on their mind when theyre hearing this, Why were they silent? And I can only imagine what the economic forces are behind the scenes for that, but it really disappoints me, that that hasnt happened. May you and your family be richly bleSSed!!! Hes also the chairman of the elder board at a multisite megachurch in Dallas, Texas. Because it was lawyers advice, you know, and its like, where does the word of God play into our decision making? Is that correct? Okay. And I feel that way with these pastors. How do you recommend searching worth while places to donate too? Id like to share a few things as we navigate this loss together. I came out of Wheaton College, as I know a lot of kids do when youre in a Christian environment and maybe see some disillusioning things and I just, it was really a hard spiritual time for me. And I had a wonderful experience. Let the Briscoes help you experience Life in all its fullness! Scott Dyer was the worship pastor at Bent Tree Bible fellowship. It is not a program is not a set of services. Yet Mitch isnt just the lawyer whos seen megachurches as an outsider bringing accountability. Well, Mitch, this has been read. I was kind of thrust into the middle of it out of love for wanting to help my friends and man, that thing escalated pretty quickly. "For many of you, he was preacher, pastor, mentor or friend. May God lead your next steps and may you find ways to use your gifts from a place of health. This is a person who is pushing a boundary because they want to do something bad. I think thats dangerous. It is what manifests. These are people that may be in the cubicle next to you at work, who have an acuity for blending in to normal life. WebLearn More About Pete Today - Pete Briscoe God loves you to distraction, There is nothing you can do to make Him love them more or less, And, that Life with this Lover God is rich beyond description, regardless of your performance. And what lessons can we learn from Willow Creeks mistakes? And to do that, we must avoid falling into the trap of our Christian beliefs being pitted against culture in the public sphere of debate. People can do the job of preaching and leading a church for, you know, 40 plus weeks in the pulpit at a church of this size. Im still waiting for the apology for the public apology for giving. So, while I have strong feelings about this, as you can imagine being a lawyer, but at all points, legal advice has to be subservient to Scripture. So appreciate. And there was also a service at WC where the board interviewed him and was he was questioned about an affair. Pete Briscoe was Senior Pastor of Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Carrollton, TX for nearly 30 years. We have an open listing for a lead teaching pastor in a what I believe is a healthy church environment. Today were talking with Pete Briscoe, who served as the senior pastor for nearly three decades at Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Carrollton, Texas, and now consults with and coaches pastors. Continue Reading The Upper Room: John 15 Posted by Nate Murray Now, I coach pastors and business leaders in communications and self-care. Well, early on in the process after the Tribune article, we had to make a decision, How are we going to fight a machine of this size that is basically promulgating lies about these women and their families and their supporters? And I reached out to people that I already knew within, you know, the watch blogging community. The vanilla bean is incredibly hard to harvest. Volunteers monitored the process in real time, turning over cassettes at the appropriate time to record on the second side. By the way, the best thing that was said in the recording is that if character isnt there, none of the regulations will matter, and if character is there, one doesnt need the regulations. The Journal Sentinel reported: Elmbrook resignations are the latest to rock evangelical Christian churches. 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