Although this map does not provide enough detail toclearly illustratethe perimeter of any specificbase,it doesindicate how massive the American presence was in Thailand and helps to inform the scale of the related problem of Agent Orange exposure. Depending in what shop your Father was in Im sure that I had to run across him in that hangar we worked out of. Comment and Posting Policy. Need information about what has happened to the others. I saw the barrels often with lids off in storage area as well as it being sprayed on the perimeter during the time I performed compass swings as part of my job. I know I did it, I remember how dark it was out there at night. We had a well and filtering plant for our water needs. The Title: Project CHECO Southeast Asia Report. The Intelligence Officer from Vp49 in 1968 turned me on to our spot on the base. The Veterans Adm. agreed from the beginning that my husband was in the right places, at the right times, doing the right jobs to be exposed to AO. You could perhaps try other websites such as veteran groups or chat rooms that allow for two way communication. our K9 dogs, who were left,,, cause of agent orange,, They would have been a good indicator,as what was used, in the name of war!! I remember coming in from post, and shining,in the moon light, coated with the shit, we use a pesticide, to dip our dogs in (malathion), now that also is a big health issues. Rich Kollen visiting Chiang Mai. I served @ HHD 9th Logistical Command, in Korat, Thailand Jul 1964-1965. 1971~1975 assigned in Bangkok worked on the JUSMAG compound in the Telecomunications center COMSEC/CRYPTO transmission and receipt of messages across all Military Commands we were located next to the switch board. The film features footage of various US Air Force fighter jets, including the McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom, the Lockheed C-5 Galaxy, and the North American T-28th Trojan. We were located by the Control Tower and the Fire Department. I was stationed at Udorn from 1973-74. I was stationed at Takhli Royal Thai Air Force Base from September 69 to September 70. She wrote a letter for me that I submitted to the VA and after two years, I started receiving benefits. He has terminal prostate cancer, mets to the bones, multiple myeloma and Polycythemia Vera (blood disorder). Melvin A. Bosch Msgt Retired. Is there anyone out there that has the same experience?? I was stationed at Utapao in 1972-73 and Korat and Ubon in 73-74. We further reserve the right, in our sole discretion, to I would like to get in touch with you both. (70-71) FLEW 50+ MISSIONS OVER LAOS AND CAMBODIA. He leaves behind a wife and three grandchildren they were raising. He filed Seot 2019 and died before eer hearing from the VA, I refiled and was turn down but have an appointment before a judge in sept. After about 5 months in Thailand we starting running 2 miles each morning, m-f and Camp Samae San was beautiful base but small, I am currently a disabled physician assistant, the congress in the last yr has submitted a house bill hr2201 and senate bill 1381, these bills are the same and would treat thai vets just like viet nam vets when it comes to agent orange, wish me luck, if im able to finally get what i deserve, i will be happy to help any of u all GOD bless America. Unfortunately, VA will not accept award of the Medal as proof of service within the coordinates outlined for Medal Criteria. My husband Bob Schoonover (VP-1, served U-Tapao) died of bladder cancer Dec 2020. When I first arrived at Utapao in late 1969 the klong had lots of vegetation growing along the banks. I was told it was due to working in the dusty supply building. Well I got called up and guarded the base perimeter. The Navy patrol squadrons were located right near the southwest end of the runway. it was a raidar site. Iam on the agent orang government list.. I have stage 4 kidney disease as well. I as station at TRAFB in 1966/67 went TRY to DaNang AFB Vietnam in Jan 1967. Also many of us flew from US and landed in Vietnam for aircraft refueling enroute to Thailand. I was stationed on Udorn AFB between June 1971 June 1972. I think we all be assured that herbicides were used to kill foliage all throughout that base. This surgery left me mobility impaired. Accept for a couple of pictures taken on the second floor of barracks 2155, I have no proof that I was even stationed there, no orders, no performance reports, no VSM(ended in Jan 73, even though I refueled B-52s that were still bombing Laos and Cambodia). I only was approved for Agent Orange exposure due to my being able to PROVE to the VA that, on my way to Thailand, our military transport plane landed at Saigon and when I left we were routed on the military plane and landed on Saigon on the way home! passed away at the age of 82 on March 1, 2021 in Albuquerque NM. I was TDY to Utapao AB in 1968. Was stationed at Utapao in 1970 and 71 and worked in the 635MMS Storage Section.I saw U-2s land and take off from UT as well as SR=71s.We also had munitions folks who were assigned to augmentee duty with the Security Forces.Had a guy named Bristol who was TDY to UT on the SRs pitch on our softball team for MMS.He played with us because his unit was to small to field a team.He was a super pitcher. Read our Comment and Posting Policy. Required fields are indicated with an * asterisk. have fingers crossed but at 75 believe my time running out. definkyely exposed to herbicidee. If your work area, was in the outer perimeter you may get approved. Thank you for your time. I was TDY to U-Tapoa AB Thailand in 1969. I suspect I may have diabetes, not sure yet, how will all this all come into play, will I have a claim? Unfortunately the rules dictating the contents of comments on Library of Congress blog posts does not allow personal information to be published. The base, predating the arrival of American forces, is depictedon the mapAmphoe Ta Klhi, Sheet 5060 I,AMS Series L708, which is shown below. Thanks. I was stationed at Camp Friendship 7Nth Main. I spent four to six hours a day in Da Nang or Bien Hoa. I Visited sites at Khon Kaen, Korat and Bangkok. I believe I have bladder cancer as a result of exposure to AO. I do believe being on the ground in Saigon was key to my disabilities being approved at 100%, please dont give up, sometimes the VA is VERY DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH, remember the squeaky wheel gets grease, DONT GIVE UP!!!! 4, 6922 SW. The building now used for my restaurant was built in 1966. I was stationed on Hill 272 July 1968 to July 1969. I believe I was exposed to AO, and on one occasion went to sick call with small blisters on both arms. my working other odd jobs(such as spraying weeds around culverts.Sprayed weeds in off base storage yard and etc. Fast forward, got non-hopkins lymphoma. I now take that to mean Hmong tribesmen. I am looking for anyone that was stationed there in 1971.I was in the hospital Nong Song Thailand for 5 days and have record of it in my medical record. My career field was supply administration but on arrival, I was attached to security forces as an augmented member for the first four months. Unit transfered to Rum-Chit-Thai just south ou Sakon Nakon. That knowledge helped me reconcile in my mind the illnesses and diseases Ive suffered for the past 30 years. My husband (Arthur) worked in Bangkok, Thailand for Philco-Ford Communications and Satellite Division from 1967 to 1969. She referred me to see a Neurologist (Nerve Specialist) the following day and, she too knew what I had, even going so far to order laboratory tests and a CT Scanall coming back positive as being Parkinsons Disease. Robert Calhoun June 9 2020, if you have copies of your performance reports, take then to VFW, or American Legion. I was stationed in Korat, Thailand at Camp Friendship from 22 Mar 67 to 7 Mar 68. Finally got I hope good VA rep. GOOD LUCK TO ALL VETS THAT SERVED VIETNAM n THAILAND. The date on the order is: 1/15/1968 and the other last names listed are:Fisher, Samson, Proctor, Mapano, Shively, Dyson, Sadler, Dorenzo, Gregory, Fountain. Why is it that I do not know any of your names.Agent oj, Same time, Da Wolf Man! I believe I was in the 379th Signal Battalion while in Sattahip. I was stationed at U-Tapao AFB in 1971-1972, spending one month also at UBON AFB in January 1972. Stationed at NKP 1967/1968. I would appreciate anyones input. Im looking for any info about the men he served with, they may have been engineers Im not sure but they did alot of nuclear testing. I served with 355th out of Takhli 1969-1970. These idiot think that when agent orange was sprayed on the perimeter an around our barracks that it just stayed in one pot and was never air born. I have had prostate cancer, bladder cancer, and now I believe the latter is a disease from AO. I know he saw agent Orange there because when he got out he wrote a paper for school about agent orange. My late husband William M. Beach was stationed at Korat I think in 1973. I am trying to find out what they sprayed the antenna field with to keep the weeds down. I wore a patch on my uniform that was the 9th logisitic command. He died April 2020, he had type 2 diabetes, heart problems and was on dailyze three times a week.Being retired and covered under tricare for life he saw civiiian doctors and no one every asked if he was expost to AO. Three T-28 Trojans taxi at Udorn. Have fun fighting the system. From fort Lewis. IWCS TERMINAL , JOINTLY MANNED BY US ARMY AND PHILCO FORD CONTRACTORS . MCAS RoseGarden Vets: Gary Mcevilla, Eldon Toncrey, Paul S Smith, Chandler Nelm, JC Smith, and Paul D Kaisar. - U.S. Air Force Veterans who served on Royal Thai Air Force (RTAF) bases at U-Tapao, Ubon, Nakhon Phanom, Udorn, Takhli, Korat, and Don Muang, near the air base perimeter anytime between . I was stationed at Kanchanaburi Army Installation (Signal Detachment), from March 1968 to July 1969. The USAF units were the majority of American forces deployed in Thailand. Until 1986 after my second son was born I became Diabetic. I have a claim in for agent orange exposure. Commit by VA, there was no agent orange used in NKP. Anyone else remember this time? Spent many days and night working launch and recovery of the F4s. Bases in Thailand During the Vietnam War and Agent Orange. Adobe Acrobat PDF format, about 290K in size. - U.S. Air Foce Veterans whe served on RTAF bases at U-Tapao, Ubon, Nakhon Phanom, Udorn, Takhli, Korat and Don Muang, near the air base perimeter any time between Feb. 28, 1961 and May 7, 1975. Crewed a Spectre on Mayaguez recovery. 7 claims filed , 5 denied ,,, received letter showing 2 claims service related and even though my Agent Orange was denied , I am listed with the VA as Herbicide Exposed Veteran. I was with the 355TFS at Takhli AFB 68-69 as an instrument -autopilot tech. Upon my arrival, I had no idea as a (A1C) that I will be placed on detail for several months chopping down foliage and vegetation outside the perimeter were we slept out in the area which resulted to having Prostate Cancer attribute to herbicides (AGENT ORANGE) exposure. The lead plane has a Royal Lao Air Force marking on the fuselage. At Utapao the ground support were recognised as combatants. I was at Ubon from 3/71-3/72. I dont think we ever cleared customs etc. Hmm still classified? Not until last year did I find out that Takhli was also sprayed with AO and the Rainbow Herbicides. I have developed a form of MD it was identified as Inclusion Body Myositsis. I was at Takhi from July 66 to July 67. If anyone could reach out to me that would be great. Both organs had to be removed because of their advanced nature at the time of discovery I am in legacy appeal with a docket number. Udorn Royal Thai Air Force Base (Udorn RTAFB) is a Royal Thai Air Force (RTAF) base, the home of 23rd Wing Air Command. I cannot find any reference to this place on the maps published here. During that mortar attack. AGAIN, ANY INFORMATION ABOUT AGENT ORANGE AT UBON RTAFB FROM 11/1968 TO 11/1969 WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!!!! Now suffer nerve damage, terrible neuropathy and diabetes so far. I was at Udorn from 1970 1971 Civil Engineers Six MiG kills for this Phantom. We slept in canvas roofed hootches with screen windows,before the Sea Bees built the tin roofed hootches, further away from the wire. Have heart problems,prostate problems, pre diabetes etc.who knows what else. Was stationed at NKP in 67, 68. Hi I understand the rules on this site prohibiting direct contact between vets posting here, however, I belong to several Facebook groups dedicated to vets who served in Thailand, including one specifically for personnel who were based at NKP. He passed away in 1994. Although I have acquired a variety of medical ailments over the years (heart issues, type 2 diabetes), I dont believe I had significant AO exposure related to my duties there, based on my reading of this. Ive had a claim in for quit a while.nothing yet. After fighting the VA for 7 years I finally received 100% disability. VA has denied my disability July 2020, Was in Korat 1967-68 cant remember want unit Army next to airbase TDY all over udon/ ubon. I injured my back loading and had to eventually crosstrain into the medics after returning to Holloman. I remember how close the jungle was to the perimeter wire when I first arrived. When I told them I figured it out they said, Too Late!, I served at U-Tapao royal thai airfield from 1968-1969. Greetings to all. The Area Source Program (ASP-T) was fully operational before the first attack occurred in July 1968. It was all dead. Service in Ubon, Thailand 1965 437th MAC. Anyone who was stationed on Hill 272, Sattip Thailand, 70-72. remove a user's privilege to post content on the Library site. I was in Life Support, maintained all equipment used by pilots. I left Korat in 1965 and went eventually back to the home base. I was stationed at udon Royal Thai airbase from September 1975 to February 1976. I have not tried to file with the VA. Find this document! Stated there might shift flight line and remember spraying different areas. Found out had stage 2 diabetes and had a few surgeries to take tumors off. I am aware the war cutoff was May 7, 1975, how does that work for me if I arrived on the 11th, and probably still got exposed to AO. The O2A was cut up and loaded on a C130 back to NKP. Tom Yawkey Wildlife Center. Is there any chance I was exposed to Agent Orange? The reason they gave me was that I was there in peace time. I remember Thailand being one of the enlistment options at that time. I was put in hootches when I first arrived. https://www.disabledveterans.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Project-CHECO-Report.pdf. If you belong to any FB groups like the ones I mentioned, please check for my name and contact me. I was TDY to Utapoa NKP Tahki 72-73. The majority of the fuel can from Bangkok in 3170 gallon trucks. OSI Command Historian. Stationed camp friendship 1965-1966.538 engineers.Anybody left sure would be nice too hear from you. However, in May 2020, my Philippine-American Wife (a Retired Registered Nurse) noticed my right hand shaking (which it had been shaking for quite some time, thinking that it was due to the many years that I have typed on a manual and electric typewriter; word processing equipment and computers and, just getting old) and, she suggested that I cut back on writing numerous articles that I present on a Veterans WordPress.com Website that I have and, when I did, the shaking continued to worsen. I have bladder cancer from AO. He stationed at Ubon but spent time in the field and at Udon. Also did guard duty 3 times on the outskirts of the base when we were on high alert, not listed on my record. Also the fact that the Crash Fire Station my work location was classified in the outer perimeter. I can remember standing at the runway side of our barracks watching F105 take off. The photo was taken shortly before the aircraft received its . Had some great guys in our hootch . A few of the first names I remember are, TEX, stephen, and burt , and denis . Only proof required was any document putting you their. Better known as the Rose Garden. Have to be very careful of the foods I eat. Try it. That he personally killed four. But thats the Marine Corps way. Thanks to all of you veterans for everything youve done and I hope you get the help from the VA that you deserve. I would like to discuss AO at NKP if knew/worked with Ernest. 500 meters is measure from base perimeter fence. I was turned down for the agent orange list. The attached photo shows Gary on the left and me on the right." . I was in the 417TFS. See why you should visit this farm near DC that was once a covert military base. I pulled that duty several times. from 1968 to 1969. 5, 3 ARRGp with a total of 23 airmen. Detachment 1 USASCC Udorn,Thailand 1964-65. It gives a base-by-base study as to how defenses were established at every base in Thailand. Air America complex at Udorn Thailand, 1973. I was deployed to NKP Thailand August 1962 with USN MCB3 to construct the battalion base camp and later to defoliage the jungle and underbrush to construct the airbase 8 miles inland from the Mekong River, out of mortar range. Was anyone station there during that time that might remember any of this time and remember where he lived. AT Phitsonulok dec 68 to dec 69. I lean toward the latter because during his posting he had to be medivaced to Clark AFB hospital. His reply was always that he was required to not discuss his duties. I was stationed at Utapoa from Dec74 to Dec75 as a special purpose vehicle mechanic. I was stationed at Ubon RTAFB from Nov 1968 to Nov 1969. These are just a few pictures I took around the base. Do any of you (besides Gary) know anything about Nam Phong, otherwise known as MCAS Rose Graden? I remember the smell of insecticide or some chemical. we lived in tents, waited for rain to shower and ate c-rats until the seabees came. It's not a tourist spot for sightseeing but you can see it from the gate I guess. Hart trouble,strange skin disorders, fainting falls, the best of times the worst of times. I also served at Takale Thailand during 1968. I was stationed at Korat RTAFB from 68-69 and spending about a month at Ubon TDY living in the old Ausie hootches at Perimeter.Next spent two years at Yokota Japan and Osan Korea. I was assigned to the 355th Security Police. Information is presented in a fashion similar to the front page. I am 75 years old and not sure how much time I have left. Served 809th Eng Bn, 16th Domp Truck comp, NAkon Phanom (NKP) 1969 -1970). and seeking contact from my work buddies, James Haley (WI); James Hall, (TX); Ron Oleson (WI); Steve Miller (Boston) and Ivan Huff (ID). This blog is governed by the general rules of respectful civil discourse. Been trying to get the VA to approve my Parkinsons. 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